Prison Break - Episode 3.13 - Whistler & Mahone
So… there’s been some speculation as to the Whistler/Mahone conversation at the end of Prison Break Episode 3.13.
Whistler: “She handles the money. You in?”
Mahone: “She better be able to handle a lot more than that, because if she has done what you think she has … Sara … she’s the weak link, and he will find her. And then Scofield will find you and me, and I’m not paying for your mess.”
Whistler: “Are you in or are you out.”
Mahone: “I’m in.”
What do you think Mahone means? Is Sara possibly still alive?
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57 opinions for Prison Break - Episode 3.13 - Whistler & Mahone
ahte
Feb 23, 2008 at 9:15 am
sara cud possibly be alive… maybe she escaped so susan.b got a fake head becoz we know the company well enough and they can get anything-make anything. so hopefullly she is.. but we’ll wait and see. :) XD ( first comment )
dominator
Feb 23, 2008 at 10:12 am
No she’s not alive. But I knew when I heard the strange wording, fans would speculate about it!
dominator
Feb 23, 2008 at 10:13 am
I do like Mahone’s and Whistler’s new relationship though. I’m looking forward to seeing them work together. I hope they get rid of Gretchen and become a team.
rainbow66
Feb 23, 2008 at 10:28 am
ive been wondering…. but it cant possibly be!! what does he mean when he says ‘weak link’ ?
dominator
Feb 23, 2008 at 10:32 am
‘Weak Link’ means since Gretchen killed Sara, Michael will track her down. So now Mahone and Whistler are also at risk if they keep Gretchen around, since Gretchen is now wanted by Michael. I hope it’s a sign that Mahone will talk Whistler into they killing Gretchen.
pb fan
Feb 23, 2008 at 11:09 am
i don’t think sara is alive!! but becoause mahone doesn’t really know the truth he says:”if she has done what you think she has…sara….” that means if she really killed sara then she’s the week link!! and of course she’s the week link because she did kill sara!! they just want to confuse us!!
Lt
Feb 23, 2008 at 2:19 pm
Although in my mind, Sara did pass away and the conversation was in reference to Gretchen being the weak link, due to her killing Sara, which would led Micheal to them, it would be interesting to speculate, IF Sara is alive.
The way I am interpreting this part of the conversation is that Sara is the one that handles the money and she works for the company all this time. What makes it more interesting is if this is the actual future storyline, it would change Sara’s image from an innocent victim/by stander to criminal/accomplish t. WOW that would be something.
sasho
Feb 23, 2008 at 2:25 pm
come on people it’s simple… He says that the woman that killed Sara is the weak link, because Michael will be after her and he will find her. Sara is not alive, unless they found a way to attach her head back on her shoulders.
Mary
Feb 23, 2008 at 2:36 pm
Mahone said “If she did what you think she did..” Makes it very open to interpretation. I wouldn’t be surprised if Sara ended up being alive because writers know that ratings would go up. Who knows though. I am sooo ready to find out what is really up.
Mosc
Feb 23, 2008 at 3:06 pm
hold on second here what Whistler and Mahone think has nothing to do with actual reality. Whistler
and Mahone have no idea that Sara’s head turn up in a box they have not seen proof of the demise of Sara leaving them open to speculate that Sara isn’t
so Whistler and Mahone could be totally wrong.
Gretchen would be the weak leak because she couldn’t Kill as Mahone made reference to both Michael and Lincoln being weak in season 2 because they couldn’t kill, but we have seen this
season it’s no the case whereas Lincoln has killed multiple times this season and Michael killed Sammy, Mahone knows Michael will find and kill them.
I wouldn’t say Mahone motives are clear yet I think he some how believes he can use the company to get what he needs/wants and that some where down the line Gretchen will be staring down the barrel of Mahone’s gun if michael don’t get her first. also don’t be surprised
if a fisherman doesn’t end up with the same fate
Mosc
Feb 23, 2008 at 3:07 pm
hold on second here what Whistler and Mahone think has nothing to do with actual reality. Whistler
and Mahone have no idea that Sara’s head turn up in a box they have not seen proof of the demise of Sara leaving them open to speculate that Sara isn’t dead
so Whistler and Mahone could be totally wrong.
Gretchen would be the weak leak because she couldn’t Kill as Mahone made reference to both Michael and Lincoln being weak in season 2 because they couldn’t kill, but we have seen this
season it’s no the case whereas Lincoln has killed multiple times this season and Michael killed Sammy, Mahone knows Michael will find and kill them.
I wouldn’t say Mahone motives are clear yet I think he some how believes he can use the company to get what he needs/wants and that some where down the line Gretchen will be staring down the barrel of Mahone’s gun if michael don’t get her first. also don’t be surprised
if a fisherman doesn’t end up with the same fate
Bean
Feb 23, 2008 at 3:30 pm
Kudos to the writers for keeping us guessing. I have found some of their references to Sara (LJ’s account of the decapitation) really obvious and awkward, but this exchange between Mahone and Whister played well. It would be great to see Sara again and I predict that Mahone is not so unworthy as to join our dastardly duo for real. I’m guessing that now that he is clean, he will want to bring down the Company. He is probably also grateful to Michael for the escape and that Michael staid Lincoln’s hand when Linc was about to shoot. I’ll bet he double-crosses Whistler and Gretchen - that’s what PB is famous for!
Jane
Feb 23, 2008 at 3:34 pm
I agree with most of what Mosc is saying. Whistler and Mahone wouldn’t really know if Sara was alive or not, especially Mahone, since he was absent at the time and had no connection to Gretchen. I think the comment was referring to Whistler hearing from Michael that Sara was dead, but it’s really open to interpretation. Of course, the writers probably want it that way, so people will continue to speculate about Sara.
I don’t recall Mahone ever actually calling someone “weak” for not being able to kill, though he did say things about the brothers not being able to do it. It’s not like he enjoys doing it himself… Just when it’s necessary. Remember his comment to Michael after he orchestrated Sammy’s demise? “Never gets any easier..” Aw. I loved the new relationship between them.
I also think that Alex’s reasons for agreeing to join Whistler and Gretchen are unclear, as is his role in whatever they are doing. Are they working for the Company? As I recall, Gretchen was working for them on contract… So is this still a part of that? Or something different? I suppose we’ll have to wait and see. But, considering everything the Company has done to Mahone and his family, and what he knows they’ve done to Michael and Lincoln, I cannot see how he would ever work for them willingly. Especially knowing Michael is coming for them. It just doesn’t fit his character. There has to be some other reason. A secret agenda, perhaps.
Plus, what are they doing that they require Mahone’s assistance? I remember Whistler having his bird book page with information about Mahone on it, which he quickly burned before Michael saw it. I wonder if this has something to with it? I remember being so worried that that weaselly Whistler was planning something then… Which he was. Meh. I don’t know. I just hope Mahone stays a good guy. Though it might be worth it for him to work for the Company if it means seeing him figure stuff out in his Season 2, brilliant-genius-guy way.
Nazel
Feb 23, 2008 at 4:26 pm
Come on they could easily have faked her head, the question is not whether the character is really dead or not, it’s whether Sarah Wayne Callies is willing to comeback & work with the studios’ terms, cause they’ll find a way to bring her back somehow, they obviously left a window for her to come back !
Chris
Feb 23, 2008 at 5:29 pm
Wow! Great analogies by the majority of people. I personally find myself thinking the same as Lt, Mary, and Bean.
All along I have only believed that Sara is indeed dead about 10%. I see the producers getting together with Sarah Wayne Callies at some point to bring her on to either finish out the series, or get true closure. So they couldn’t come to terms for this season, what is to say they couldn’t the next?
When I watched the exchange between Whistler and Mahone the first time, I have to admit I was thinking that Mahone was going back to the dark side (i.e, The Company). After seeing it two more times, I started to think about Mahone’s end game — Pam and Cam. He cannot get to them without taking down The Company. He tried that once already and failed miserably. Therefore, I am left to believe that 1) He and Whistler are working together to take down the company (but I can’t get a read on Whistler yet to know which side he is on); 2) He is working against Whistler to take down the company; 3) He is working secretly with Michael to take down the company.
As for what Mahone said about Sara. Kudos to the writers for making us think! One could look at it and just say that Michael is going to go after Gretchen for killing Sara. After repeated viewings, one could look at it and say that Sara escaped some how or is actually part of the company or something. It definitely leaves the possibility that Sara is indeed alive. That coupled with the fact that LJ didn’t see her get killed. Who knows what they could have threatened that kid with to say that. There are just too many questions.
I just think it would be all just too neat and clean to say that Sara is dead - which they never do. It is always LJ didn’t see it (so did it really happen?) or Mahone saying “if.” Who knows? I just cannot wait to hear when Fox picks it up for Season 4 or at least gives us our remaining 9 episodes.
Sara
Feb 23, 2008 at 6:05 pm
Well, maybe she is not alive, but i really HOPE that he is still alive :(
newbie
Feb 23, 2008 at 7:40 pm
I agree with Nazel…….we should all be keeping a close eye on SWC….and can you imagine how many viewers that will come back if she is alive..I have had my doubts all along that she would never return,but I was thinking more in terms that Michael would cross the line somehow..like shooting Gretchen in the back and then find out that she hadn’t killed Sara after all….Michael would then be filled with guilt and self incrimination..remember how he broke down in season two?
Bean
Feb 23, 2008 at 10:06 pm
It is so fun and interesting to read everyone’s insightful comments - thanks! As for SWC, if she’s anything like me, she will be chomping at the bit to return to work when her daughter’s about 10 months old. Hopefully the execs over at FOX have been paying attention to the viewers’ wants and cares.
Perth
Feb 24, 2008 at 12:04 am
that conversation certainly did not lead me to speculation about Sara’s death.They just mean that since mike thinks gretchen killed Sara, he’s gonna come looking for her which is risky for mahone and whistler.Sara is still dead.
Nazel
Feb 24, 2008 at 2:45 am
Yeah but it’s the “if” that’s making us wonder
nuwanda
Feb 24, 2008 at 5:52 am
Whistler knows that sara is dead from michael when they were in sona.. that was the reason michael challenged whistler with the chicken foot..
michel
Feb 24, 2008 at 8:26 am
srry nothing related to this but could it be that jason lief was married to molly and he got killed thats why there was a surveillence tape on him maybe to track his every move and then kill him
Mosc
Feb 24, 2008 at 8:31 am
Jane your right Mahone never actually said they were weak but he implied that Michael was weak when michael trapped him in the gas plant when Michael broke the window to vent the gas, than in the last episode of season 2 when Mahone Captured Lincoln in the warehouse Mahone told michael he is the same as you he can’t kill
On side note that conservation Between Michael and Mahone in Gas plant wasn’t very important to season 2 but after seeing Mahone and Whistler in the bar it is Important because thats why Mahone said he will find her, which btw is the only absolute in the whole conversation between whistler and Mahone
Mosc
Feb 24, 2008 at 8:44 am
i went back and watch the conservation again the read i get on Mahone is either he is planning a double cross or he really believes in what they are doing why would he be so sure Michael was going to find them and than say he was in anyway unless he has a death wish
dogloverkd
Feb 24, 2008 at 10:17 am
I hope that Sara is alive because once Michael crossed the line and kills Grechen he becomes someone that he won’t like. Plus that is the draw to him that he has only done all this to save Linc. Also he kills Grechen then what…what eles could happen. I just think the writer’s don’t really know what the fans want if Michael turns into “that man”.
Sierra
Feb 24, 2008 at 11:10 am
i also had to rewatch this scene a few times and for awhile i thought they were referring to gretchen being the weak link for killing sara and mike going after her for that etc… like many of you have said and believe. then i came in here and im starting to think that it is a possibility that sara could still be alive. here is a list of reasons as to why
1) lj not seeing her get killed
2) the convo between whistler and mahone
3) the show relocating to LA (i read somewhere that after leaving vancouver SWC was going to go to LA - but who knows if thats true)
4) SWC isnt currently working on anything else but im sure she is able to work considering her baby was born months ago
5) the ratings have dropped since she left and a lot of fans have been outraged by her death
I could see the studio approaching SWC asking her to return, she was a big part of the show and a lot of people watched for the misa relationship. I just hope that if she does return she isnt part of the company - that would be worse than her being dead imo - i like many have invested a lot into the misa relationship and if she comes back and they make her part of the company and working against michael this whole time i would be furious, that would be just wrong. but i dont think that would be the case - if she was against him why would she have kept his origami rose?
KONVICt
Feb 24, 2008 at 11:21 am
i thought the same regarding sara i thought he was refering to sara as the week link and that micheal will find her
ada
Feb 24, 2008 at 11:52 am
I don’t know if sara is still alive but i hope she is.
Mary
Feb 24, 2008 at 12:59 pm
Sara HAS to be alive for a # of reasons…………..
1 - The head in the box that Linc found wasn’t even a replica of Sara’s real head; It was a fake or someone else’s head. Didn’t even look like her at all.
2 - It was said Sarah W.C wasn’t coming back to Prison Break: SEASON 3, (the Key Words being: Season 3) not “at all” or “ever”
3 - M/S are the heart of the show; without them the show loses a lot of its appeal, so with them in it, there is always something to look forward to.
4 - Paul T. Scheuring says he would never kill Sara(h) off b/c she was an increadible ASSET to the show, and technically, he didn’t kill her off. He just made a HECK of a lot people think she was……………….sly & a total scare!
Also, for the other obvious reasons Sierra came up with!
TT99
Feb 24, 2008 at 6:15 pm
Well, the head in the box didn’t look like SWC because she never actually appeared in any eps in S3, she was on maternity leave. So it had to be a technical makeup replica of some sort.
But that aside, I thought the “weak link” was referring to Gretchen. I thought they were alluding to the fact that she was really just a “soldier” with out much power after all. I have a feeling Whistler ordered the hit on Sara and Michael will come after them both once he figures it out and tries to destroy The Company hierarchy.
I don’t need Sara to be alive to enjoy the show, so long as the story itself is compelling.
Tom
Feb 25, 2008 at 1:55 am
Whistler: “She(Gretchen) handles the money. You(Whistler) in?”
Mahone: “She(Gretchen) better be able to handle a lot more than that, because if she(Gretchen) has done what you think she(Gretchen) has … Sara … she’s(Sara) the weak link, and he(Scofield) will find her(Gretchen). And then Scofield will find you and me, and I’m not paying for your mess.”
Whistler: “Are you in or are you out.”
Mahone: “I’m in.”
SiNMaN
Feb 25, 2008 at 2:24 am
Well based on Season 1,2,3 the writers are ruthless. Dozens of favorite characters killed off and new ones added by the episode. I doubt Sara will come back into the show.
Even though the last conversation between Whistler/Mahone can be interpreted into Sara being alive and in the hands of the company. They faked her death to prove a point but kept her alive as a contengency plan if something goes wrong, to keep Micheal in check. Thats the only way I see Sara coming back into the show.
What I want to find out are some anwsers about the Company. A
Tabitha
Feb 25, 2008 at 3:35 am
I think she is still dead. Think mahone was just referencing to what Gretchin has done to Sara. & he knows full well that Michael is gonna be coming after Gretchin, which will then lead to them & the company!! & DAMN RIGHT too!!!!
Loving all peoples interpretations!!
Joe
Feb 25, 2008 at 6:34 am
Tom got it right
Jen
Feb 25, 2008 at 7:24 am
I think Sara is still alive. The show has lost quite a bit of appeal after her appearing to be dead. I think it was a test to see whether it would work if the misa story was broought to an end by her death. But I guess it didn’t, hence they will bring her back. Just my opinion. Also misa storyline needs to be present for this show until it stops airing. It made the show successful and will continue to do so if given the opportunity.
Juan
Feb 25, 2008 at 1:32 pm
I think that if the company is able to send military helicopters into another country to shoot and kill police guards in an attempt to break someone out of prison then they probably have enough resources to get a female head to put near a garbage can. Now, whether or not Lincoln can swear he saw Sara’s head is a different story. Lincoln knows how she looked and should be able to tell so if it was her so if Sara is alive then the script is portraying Lincoln as big galoot with little brains (unless they flashback to him not really looking into the box for more than a second in his brief state of shock).
If the writers really did kill her off it would be corny to bring her back because the fans want her back. It would really be cool for Micheal to find the rest of Sara’s body though, hehe. Does anyone remember when Susan had those scratches on her face? Were those from Sara?
Mosc
Feb 25, 2008 at 6:35 pm
the scratches where from when she was P.O.W.
sara is dead it’s time you people and the story move on
TT99
Feb 25, 2008 at 8:43 pm
I think bringing Sara back would be a fan-placating soap opera move that would damage the credibility of the writers. They have proven to be so much more creative than to simply reprise dead roles.
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JEH
Feb 26, 2008 at 10:14 am
A correction to what Tom posted. This is how I understood the show.
Whistler: “She(Gretchen) handles the money. You(referring to Mahone) in?” - Other words Gretchen is the “accountant” and Whistler wants Mahone to join Gretchen and himself.
Mahone: “She(Gretchen) better be able to handle a lot more than that, because if she(Gretchen) has done what you think she(Gretchen) has … Sara … she’s(Gretchen) the weak link, and he(Scofield) will find her(Gretchen). And then Scofield will find you(Whistler) and me(Mahone), and I’m not paying for your(Whistler/Company) mess.”
Whistler: “Are you(Mahone) in or are you out.”
Mahone: “I’m in.”
Suz
Feb 27, 2008 at 5:12 am
Sarah has to be alive, Scolfield and her never even got it on - they only ever had one proper snog on that train! If the producers want ratings bring her back!
Sanz
Feb 27, 2008 at 7:17 am
TT99 you’re an idiot!
Bean
Mar 1, 2008 at 11:13 pm
I was just looking at the Fox website and the recap for ep 13 reads that Mahone has been hired by The Company for $300 000. I’m kind of hoping that he ends up being a good guy, but it appears that survival is more important in the short term.
Zain
Mar 2, 2008 at 5:01 pm
I don’t see how they could bring her back, I mean what was in the box they sent to Lincoln a fake head? That’s the only way they could bring her back. and wouldn’t he be able to tell it wasnt real? LOL I was disapointed when they killed her off. She and Michael never even…like you know and I really liked her. I doubt she’s alive, I really would have liked it if Mahone and Scofield joined forces. 2 really smart guys. They have great chemistry and their relationship in Sona was great.
Zain
Mar 2, 2008 at 5:03 pm
Or they got a girl that looked like Sara killed her and cut off her head. either way…
Gary
Mar 2, 2008 at 5:11 pm
lol this is almost as bad as that theory that the pad man in really Oscar Shales.
jhoey
Mar 3, 2008 at 2:28 pm
I sure hope that Sara is still alive….I also love the idea that Mahone and Scofield would work together against The Company.
Erin Cates
Mar 4, 2008 at 6:24 am
I need to believe that Sara is alive!! And I have thought of several things that would lead to her possibly being alive
1. If you have ever paid attention to Sara’s nose you would notice that the head in the box did not match Sara’s real nose.
2. When Gretchen is talking about what happened with the head…she specifically said that she did not want to do that to that WOMAN…she didn’t say Sara
3. LJ had his eyes close and said he heard it…but whose to say what he was actually hearing? remember the fake gunshots produced by Lincoln…this could be similar to what they did. I mean look how good they were at when they faked Terrance Stedman(sp?) death.
4. The company is capable of anything, finding a similar person with a similar face, would of been easy for them
5. Mahone is very talented at finding and reading people…I don’t think he believes that Sara is dead..and maybe he’s “in” to try and actually help end this whole mess for his family’s safety and to help out Michael.
6. Maybe Sara left that rose, as a sign for Michael to keep his faith
7. Lastly, the company is not stupid…they know that Michael will not rest until justice is done as far as taking the company down. They know that if they wanted him to stay away or do any more favors for him….that they could bring sara back to surface…and that would give them the higher ground.
I know this is reading in to it very closely…but then again this is Prison Break, a show with lots of turns and twists in the plot. I wouldn’t put it past them to have left these clues on purpose. As far as Sarah gs in real life….if I was head of the show…I would be willing to give her anything she asked for to bring her back on…it would blow fans out of the water..If any of you have seen Buffy…remember when she died…I thought the show was done…but they brought her back…lets keep the faith up!!!
Tonio
Mar 9, 2008 at 1:42 am
SHE IS NOT ALIVE, L.J SAID SHE SAW HER HEAD BEING CUT OF , HE TOLD IT TO LINC.
Perth
Mar 9, 2008 at 6:20 am
actually he HEARD the sound of her getting killed, but yeah,i agree with you on the being dead part.lol
Erin
Mar 13, 2008 at 6:06 pm
Well if it were up to the writers she would def. still be alive though. But it is up to Sarah Wayne Callies. And Tonio you need to get something straight…LJ said he had his eyes close, so no actually he DID NOT see her head get chopped off. So uh, yeah
murph
Mar 24, 2008 at 10:52 am
Sarah may possiblely be alive. I think they purposefully left it open to interputation so that they could negoiatate season 4.
The conversation between Mahome/Whistler and LJ never seeing it with his own eyes was done to keep their opitions open.
The producers are negiotating a contract with Sara. If she doesn’t meet their terms, michael will take advengence on the company. If they can reach a contract with her, the show will regain a lot of its appeal.
I was thinking that they could have faked her death, so that they would keep leverage on michael for something later.
If I was a betting man, I would say she’s back.
Sanz
Mar 25, 2008 at 2:53 am
Erin cates you need to get a life!
KONVICt
Mar 25, 2008 at 3:31 am
saras dead boys and girls looking 4word 2 season 4 i wonder if they will have to change the name soon as micheal surley cant go back to prison again i think it would be cool if sucre t bag and bellick did there own break and while we follow that the story could follow micheal and his quest to take down the company and how linc and lj are getting on aswell there hasnt realy been the closure i was hopeing 4 at the end of season 3 will still dont realy know who whistler is and loads of other stuff that i cant be botherd to name
andrew tyge
Mar 25, 2008 at 5:12 am
.. for instance .. ** coughs ** {pad man ..}
andrew tyge
Mar 25, 2008 at 5:13 am
{.. and the weird lab ..} ** coughs again **
KONVICt
Mar 26, 2008 at 2:44 am
i reckon andrew tyge has the hots 4 pad man because thats all he gos on about pad man i love pad man heres a ryme 4 u and pad man. pad man and tyge sitting in a tree k i s s i n g first comes love then comes marriage then comes a gay civil partnership like elton johns marriage
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